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Tue Feb 21, 2012 8:33 PM EST
not-news, fishing, noaa, catchshares, lubchenko, borehead
By Dare To Hope
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There has been so much that I have learned from our dear friend borehead regarding the politics trying to overtake a way a living that has been handed down, generation to generation, Ocean Fishing.

He has tirelessly tried to bring this issue to our attention and shown how it will affect us in the end.

He has put so much information out there that it's mind boggling and has taken the time to help me thru what I don't understand, and provides all the links needed to back up what's he's writing.

There is a petition the fishermen/women are needing signed to try to fight to keep their way of life, can we give them a hand with our support?

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Dare To Hope

It only takes a minute to try to keep jobs from being lost and to keep yet another way of life from disappearing. Have you got a minute?

  • 10 votes
#1 - Tue Feb 21, 2012 5:45 PM EST
Pat-#@!&!#@

Signed, sent you a FR too.

  • 6 votes
#1.1 - Wed Feb 22, 2012 1:32 AM EST
bore-head007

Dare To Hope

Wow! I never expected to see this. I am amazed, and humbled that you would do this, and grateful to my fellow viners, for taking the time to read this, and then actually signing the petition. With gratitude, Thank you.

I would like to share out conversation with our newsvine community. Again. Thank you. BH

  • 7 votes
#1.2 - Wed Feb 22, 2012 7:56 AM EST
Dare To Hope

YAHOO!! Thank you Pat!! FR happily accepted.

  • 3 votes
#1.3 - Wed Feb 22, 2012 9:19 AM EST
Dare To Hope

It was the least I could do borehead. Everyone on the vine loves you and your efforts to bring this to light should be acknowledged with all the support we can give you.

I thought you might be surprised :)

Hopefully we can help get that petition up to the number needed!

  • 4 votes
#1.4 - Wed Feb 22, 2012 9:25 AM EST
kaw43

Dare to Hope,

Thank you for you passion and support of the fishermen!

Kristin

  • 3 votes
#1.5 - Wed Feb 22, 2012 12:47 PM EST
kaw43Deleted
Dare To Hope

Thank you kaw, we have to help each other because no one else is going to, lol.

Deleted double post :)

  • 2 votes
#1.7 - Wed Feb 22, 2012 1:22 PM EST
kaw43

Thanks for deleting the double. New to the vine. We must have ESP, I just created the petition over the weekend! Kristin

  • 3 votes
#1.8 - Wed Feb 22, 2012 1:30 PM EST
bore-head007

Dare To Hope, kaw43 has made her first newsvine post on this article, and is the originator of the petition.

I noticed she could use some friends, and just sent my request!

  • 3 votes
#1.9 - Wed Feb 22, 2012 1:33 PM EST
kaw43

Thanks bore-head007: I'm just figuering all this out. Not familiar with how this works and didn't mean to jump into the conversation without being invited!

  • 2 votes
#1.10 - Wed Feb 22, 2012 1:38 PM EST
hhabilis

Don't worry about being invited, Kristin; if we all did that, we'd be talking to ourselves! There are a few closed groups, but otherwise jump right in anywhere, anytime (though you might have to wear body armor occasionally).

  • 3 votes
#1.11 - Wed Feb 22, 2012 2:14 PM EST
Lkessler

I have signed as well borehead. Best wishes to y'all. I know what the ban on fishing Carey turtles has done in PR--we used to have those steaks as a treat when I was young--you couldn't find the steak now if you paid a grand...

Be well!

  • 5 votes
#1.12 - Wed Feb 22, 2012 7:28 PM EST
bore-head007

Thank you, LKessler, It means a lot.

  • 4 votes
#1.13 - Wed Feb 22, 2012 7:55 PM EST
MJL-3

Turtles? You eat Turtles?

I eat the chocolate covered candy kind :)

  • 5 votes
#1.14 - Wed Feb 22, 2012 8:01 PM EST
Lkessler

MJL: you're talking about one of the finest steaks ever to come out of a turtle, of all things.

But yes, I used to. As a young'un. And boy, what I wouldn't give to have one now!

*pregnancy cravings are making me a little nuts these days!*

PS. I too eat turtles of the "chocolate" persuasion! :D

  • 4 votes
#1.15 - Wed Feb 22, 2012 8:25 PM EST
MJL-3

Umm I think I will pass on the steak, but I will take the chocolate persuasion :)

  • 3 votes
#1.16 - Wed Feb 22, 2012 8:59 PM EST
Dare To Hope

THANK YOU Lkessler!!!

  • 2 votes
#1.17 - Wed Feb 22, 2012 9:05 PM EST
Dare To Hope

kaw....FR sent, and you don't have to worry about jumping in here, it's what we all do, and I might add....it's your petition so you totally belong here!!

Thanks for the reminder bh!

  • 3 votes
#1.18 - Wed Feb 22, 2012 9:10 PM EST
Lkessler

Dare: no problemo! I've seen what fishing bans do...

Sometimes, even well-intentioned ideas are just dumb... This is one of them.

  • 3 votes
#1.19 - Thu Feb 23, 2012 5:44 PM EST
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Enoch-2699399

Dear Dare to Hope: Indeed we can. bore-headed 007 is an amazing advocate. His work is tireless, his passion unquenchable. I always vote his articles up the Vine.

Enoch.

  • 7 votes
Reply#2 - Tue Feb 21, 2012 8:39 PM EST
Dare To Hope

Thanks Enoch and here's your second (((hug))) of the day. I'm not sure how many signatures they need but I'm sure they'll take all they can get :)

  • 6 votes
#2.1 - Tue Feb 21, 2012 8:49 PM EST
bore-head007

Thank you, Enoch!

  • 3 votes
#2.2 - Wed Feb 22, 2012 10:19 AM EST
Reply
Dowser

Done.

  • 10 votes
Reply#3 - Tue Feb 21, 2012 9:02 PM EST
Dare To Hope

YAY!! Thank you Dowser!!!

  • 9 votes
#3.1 - Tue Feb 21, 2012 9:11 PM EST
Dowser

:-)

  • 10 votes
#3.2 - Tue Feb 21, 2012 9:19 PM EST
bore-head007

Dowser Darlin', thank you!

  • 4 votes
#3.3 - Wed Feb 22, 2012 10:19 AM EST
Dowser

My pleasure! You know I support your efforts!

  • 4 votes
#3.4 - Wed Feb 22, 2012 11:43 AM EST
bore-head007

I really love you Dowser. You are such a wonderful, wonderful lady.

  • 2 votes
#3.5 - Wed Feb 22, 2012 1:36 PM EST
Soovivers

Done too. Anything to help out BH and his friends and family

  • 5 votes
#3.6 - Wed Feb 22, 2012 5:34 PM EST
bore-head007

I was on the phone with mighty j, who is steaming back to Gloucester, standing wheel watch, and I heard the radio crackling in the background.

Osprey. US COAST GUARD. Channel 16. OVAH!

jj. Ah @!$%#.

getting boarded! LMAO!

  • 3 votes
#3.7 - Wed Feb 22, 2012 6:13 PM EST
Dare To Hope

THANK YOU Soov!!!

I bet jj was not too happy about that, lol.

  • 4 votes
#3.8 - Wed Feb 22, 2012 6:47 PM EST
Soovivers

Poor JJ - he was just hurrying home.

  • 4 votes
#3.9 - Wed Feb 22, 2012 7:07 PM EST
Dowser

I love you, too, dear borehead. I'm so glad that we're friends!

Be careful out there, and when you talk to jj next, please give him my love, too! :-)

  • 3 votes
#3.10 - Wed Feb 22, 2012 8:18 PM EST
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bobby3053155

and Done. My pleasure to give my John Hancock to anything that you ask for Dare.

  • 7 votes
Reply#4 - Tue Feb 21, 2012 9:17 PM EST
Dare To Hope

Thank you bobby :) You're the best!

  • 8 votes
#4.1 - Tue Feb 21, 2012 9:50 PM EST
bore-head007

Thank you, bobby!

  • 4 votes
#4.2 - Wed Feb 22, 2012 10:20 AM EST
Reply
rottlady

Thanks for the link, signed!

  • 11 votes
Reply#5 - Tue Feb 21, 2012 9:36 PM EST
Dare To Hope

Oh thank you rottlady!!

  • 10 votes
#5.1 - Tue Feb 21, 2012 9:50 PM EST
bore-head007

My gratitude to you, rottlady

  • 3 votes
#5.2 - Wed Feb 22, 2012 10:21 AM EST
Reply
Shelby Davenport

That was easy! Done.

  • 7 votes
Reply#6 - Tue Feb 21, 2012 9:47 PM EST
Dare To Hope

Yay! Thank you Shelby!!

  • 7 votes
#6.1 - Tue Feb 21, 2012 9:51 PM EST
bore-head007

Thank you, Shelbt Davenport!

  • 3 votes
#6.2 - Wed Feb 22, 2012 10:21 AM EST
Reply
mstanley2265

Signed with added notation as to expenditures.

  • 7 votes
Reply#7 - Tue Feb 21, 2012 10:06 PM EST
Dare To Hope

Yahoo!! Thanks m, I left a rather lengthy comment myself :)

  • 9 votes
#7.1 - Tue Feb 21, 2012 10:11 PM EST
bore-head007

Thank you, mstanley

  • 3 votes
#7.2 - Wed Feb 22, 2012 10:22 AM EST
Reply
Grisham

Count me in, Dare.

Edit: Only for American citizens. I tried. :(

  • 10 votes
Reply#8 - Tue Feb 21, 2012 10:11 PM EST
mstanley2265

Haha Grisham, had to be that pesky IP address thingie...

  • 9 votes
#8.1 - Tue Feb 21, 2012 10:14 PM EST
Dare To Hope

Well in this case, it's the thought that counts!!! Thank you for trying Grish :)

  • 7 votes
#8.2 - Tue Feb 21, 2012 10:21 PM EST
MJL-3

I signed it too!!!!

  • 11 votes
#8.3 - Tue Feb 21, 2012 10:25 PM EST
Grisham

You're welcome, Dare. Wish I could help out and sign the petition though.

  • 8 votes
#8.4 - Tue Feb 21, 2012 11:03 PM EST
Dare To Hope

YAY! Thanks MJL!!

Me too Grish, maybe we can come up with something ;)

  • 8 votes
#8.5 - Tue Feb 21, 2012 11:18 PM EST
bore-head007

Grish, taking time to read it was all anyone could ask, and I'm grateful!

  • 3 votes
#8.6 - Wed Feb 22, 2012 10:24 AM EST
Dare To Hope

Pssst....Grish....my sister signed on your behalf.

  • 1 vote
#8.7 - Wed Feb 22, 2012 2:06 PM EST
TERESA OLEARY

I would dearly love to sign the petition too, but am not in the US. In fact, there are probably several viners globally. Let us know if you find a way round on how we can contribute our signatures to this very worthwhile issue.

  • 1 vote
#8.8 - Thu Feb 23, 2012 1:27 PM EST
Dare To Hope

Pssst...Teresa....I have another sister, lol.

Signed on your behalf.

I know it's not the same, but sometimes it truly is the thought that counts!

THANK YOU!

  • 2 votes
#8.9 - Thu Feb 23, 2012 1:42 PM EST
TERESA OLEARY

That's fine, DTH - if that counts then that's good enough. Good luck in your quest.

  • 3 votes
#8.10 - Thu Feb 23, 2012 1:57 PM EST
Dare To Hope

;)

  • 2 votes
#8.11 - Thu Feb 23, 2012 2:01 PM EST
Reply
Kavika

Signed, Sealed and delivered with notes.

  • 9 votes
Reply#9 - Tue Feb 21, 2012 11:26 PM EST
Dare To Hope

WONDERFUL!! Thank you Kavika!!

  • 8 votes
#9.1 - Tue Feb 21, 2012 11:34 PM EST
bore-head007

Kavika. I appreciate it, and I'm proud of my newsvine community.

  • 2 votes
#9.2 - Wed Feb 22, 2012 10:25 AM EST
Reply
greg-709692

Done !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I've read the articles by borehead and do understand the plight and the problem better because of the articles !

  • 8 votes
Reply#10 - Tue Feb 21, 2012 11:34 PM EST
Dare To Hope

Oh thank you greg, your support is appreciated!

  • 8 votes
#10.1 - Wed Feb 22, 2012 12:02 AM EST
bore-head007

Thank you greg for taking the time to read them.

  • 4 votes
#10.2 - Wed Feb 22, 2012 10:26 AM EST
greg-709692

Anytime bore-head. I just don't know how to respond to them after I read them except to say "That sucks". Not very conversational but I hope the vote ups helped. :)

  • 3 votes
#10.3 - Wed Feb 22, 2012 10:31 AM EST
bore-head007

greg, its usually the perfect response!

  • 3 votes
#10.4 - Wed Feb 22, 2012 1:38 PM EST
greg-709692

I will definitely comment next time, and not just vote. :)

  • 2 votes
#10.5 - Wed Feb 22, 2012 1:55 PM EST
bore-head007

Honest greg! sometimes I wish thats all I could say.

Sometimes I get so mad, all I can do is grab a quote!

  • 3 votes
#10.6 - Wed Feb 22, 2012 2:01 PM EST
greg-709692

LOL !!!!

This intrusion on "Our" lives has gotten worse. I thought these were the years of "Real change". Now, the oceans are the governments play toy on "Allowances".

I just wanna fish the ocean with no penalty, no lisc. no nothin. I just do it for dinner and fun. My Rod never runneth over.

  • 1 vote
#10.7 - Wed Feb 22, 2012 2:05 PM EST
Reply
ERich-356044

Signed it!

Voted up as well... borehead needs our support!!!

  • 9 votes
Reply#11 - Tue Feb 21, 2012 11:34 PM EST
Dare To Hope

Thank you so much ERich, yes, he does need our support!

  • 8 votes
#11.1 - Wed Feb 22, 2012 12:03 AM EST
bore-head007

Many thanks to you, ER!

  • 3 votes
#11.2 - Wed Feb 22, 2012 10:13 AM EST
Reply
Studiusbagus

Done!

  • 9 votes
Reply#12 - Tue Feb 21, 2012 11:59 PM EST
Dare To Hope

WOW, thank you Studiusbagus!

  • 8 votes
#12.1 - Wed Feb 22, 2012 12:04 AM EST
bore-head007

Sb, you da man!

  • 3 votes
#12.2 - Wed Feb 22, 2012 10:12 AM EST
Reply
merleliz

Done! Thanks for the link!

  • 6 votes
Reply#13 - Wed Feb 22, 2012 1:12 AM EST
Dare To Hope

YIPEE!! Thank you merleliz!!!

  • 3 votes
#13.1 - Wed Feb 22, 2012 9:26 AM EST
bore-head007

merleliz, Thank you very, very much.

  • 3 votes
#13.2 - Wed Feb 22, 2012 10:11 AM EST
merleliz

I grew up in Florida...and my grandfather would've dropped a line in a mud puddle just to see what might be lurking there.

I'll never forget my first fish...a flounder. He said it was the biggest flounder he'd ever seen and took a picture with my Brownie camera "for the record books"...took me years to realize that probably wasn't quite true, LOL!

Just posted a link on FB...hope it helps!

  • 2 votes
#13.3 - Wed Feb 22, 2012 1:45 PM EST
Dare To Hope

my grandfather would've dropped a line in a mud puddle

Lol! I love that!

I bet you were proud of that fish for a long time, do you still have the photo?

My grandmother was the one that got me started fishing, cane pole, worm, brim. Those were some of the best times in my life.

Thanks for posting to FB!!

  • 2 votes
#13.4 - Wed Feb 22, 2012 2:16 PM EST
Reply
hhabilis

One more.

  • 7 votes
Reply#14 - Wed Feb 22, 2012 1:21 AM EST
Dare To Hope

BIG GRIN!!!! Thank you hhabilis!!!

  • 3 votes
#14.1 - Wed Feb 22, 2012 9:27 AM EST
bore-head007

Awesome hhabilis, Thank you.

  • 3 votes
#14.2 - Wed Feb 22, 2012 10:11 AM EST
hhabilis

Don't know whether it'll do any good here in flyover country, where most people think an ocean is just a big, funny-tasting lake, but I shared it on my facebook page, too.

  • 2 votes
#14.3 - Wed Feb 22, 2012 2:19 PM EST
Dare To Hope

YAY!!! Thank you!

  • 1 vote
#14.4 - Wed Feb 22, 2012 2:26 PM EST
Reply
Al-316

Sure, I signed. Glad to help bore-head.

The petition count said "302 out of 500" before and after I signed. Don't know if that is good or bad.

  • 6 votes
Reply#15 - Wed Feb 22, 2012 2:02 AM EST
Dare To Hope

WOOHOO!! Thanks Al...yesterday it was in the 200's so I think we're being registered!!

  • 2 votes
#15.1 - Wed Feb 22, 2012 9:28 AM EST
bore-head007

Thank you Al, every signature is one more to the good!

  • 3 votes
#15.2 - Wed Feb 22, 2012 10:10 AM EST
kaw43

Hi Al,

There really isn't a set goal of signatures. I started with 100 but it keeps going up! I'm glad to see the support.

K

  • 3 votes
#15.3 - Wed Feb 22, 2012 12:42 PM EST
Al-316

Thanks, kaw.

  • 2 votes
#15.4 - Wed Feb 22, 2012 4:11 PM EST
Reply
HollyKl

Done!

  • 6 votes
Reply#16 - Wed Feb 22, 2012 3:59 AM EST
Dare To Hope

HAPPY FEET!!!! Thank you Holly!!!!

  • 3 votes
#16.1 - Wed Feb 22, 2012 9:29 AM EST
HollyKl

My pleasure, BH!!!!

  • 3 votes
#16.2 - Wed Feb 22, 2012 9:56 AM EST
bore-head007

HollyKI, thank you at least 100 times, thank you.

There is so much wrong, but with people like you and Dare To Hope, there IS hope!

  • 3 votes
#16.3 - Wed Feb 22, 2012 10:09 AM EST
Reply
deepwater don

Done! Anything to help BH with his campaign to make life better for all fishermen.

  • 7 votes
Reply#17 - Wed Feb 22, 2012 7:41 AM EST
Dare To Hope

YAHOO! Thanks don, I knew he could count on you!!

  • 3 votes
#17.1 - Wed Feb 22, 2012 9:30 AM EST
bore-head007

http://deepwaterdon.newsvine.com/_news/2010/11/02/5396894-when-hell-freezes-over

  • 5 votes
#17.2 - Wed Feb 22, 2012 9:47 AM EST
deepwater don

Thank you my friend. We all hang together or we hang separately, to paraphrase. Keep up the good work for us all.

  • 3 votes
#17.3 - Wed Feb 22, 2012 11:27 AM EST
bore-head007

Kin I gettcher auto gragh??? an a picture of the Sea Star?

If so, I'd like it presented to Dare To Hope!

Tellin' ya don, Dare To Hope has lifted me up with this!

I must now say, she is a fishery activist!

  • 3 votes
#17.4 - Wed Feb 22, 2012 11:39 AM EST
deepwater don

You(we) need all the help we can get.

Dare To Hope Contact me through the Newsvine contact route. (:-) Please be patient about a reply, I am gone from sunup to sundown most days, and this is one of them. Back this afternoon unless I camp out.

  • 2 votes
#17.5 - Wed Feb 22, 2012 11:51 AM EST
Dare To Hope

bh...you're the man! I've been called alot of things in my life but never an activist :) I'll wear the title proudly!

I am humbled that this lifted you up, hopefully it will just keep on spreading until those receiving it are overwhelmed by it.

The support for you here has overwhelmed me, and I'm so grateful to everyone for showing it by signing or commenting.

Give NoJ a big hug for me, LOLOLOLOL!!!! I still laugh about that....

  • 2 votes
#17.6 - Wed Feb 22, 2012 1:56 PM EST
bore-head007

If he sees this, he'll be very proud of you!

  • 3 votes
#17.7 - Wed Feb 22, 2012 2:03 PM EST
Reply
ish2dant

Thank you, Dare; and thanks to all those that signed!

:-)

  • 7 votes
Reply#18 - Wed Feb 22, 2012 8:19 AM EST
Dare To Hope

You are all most welcome ish, whatever we can do to help, we will!!

  • 3 votes
#18.1 - Wed Feb 22, 2012 9:31 AM EST
bore-head007

http://ish2dant.newsvine.com/_news/2011/03/12/6256931-what-is-the-solution-to-catch-shares

http://ish2dant.newsvine.com/_news/2011/08/18/7411885-fv-endurance-scallop-trip-to-closed-area-1-great-south-channel

  • 3 votes
#18.2 - Wed Feb 22, 2012 9:40 AM EST
Reply
Bad Fish

Shhh, don't tell anyone but i signed that petition with my real name and address. It's not really Bad Fish! Glad i could actually help someone here.

  • 7 votes
Reply#19 - Wed Feb 22, 2012 8:33 AM EST
Dare To Hope

Shhh, I did too, lol.

Thank you Bad Fish, I know we have not had much conversation on the vine but you keep me laughing, so you've helped more than one!

  • 3 votes
#19.1 - Wed Feb 22, 2012 9:35 AM EST
bore-head007

Bad fish, I think you're the baddest fish of all! :~>

  • 5 votes
#19.2 - Wed Feb 22, 2012 10:28 AM EST
Reply
underattackinflorida

Ditto!!!

  • 5 votes
Reply#20 - Wed Feb 22, 2012 8:54 AM EST
Dare To Hope

YAY!!! Thank you underattack!!

  • 3 votes
#20.1 - Wed Feb 22, 2012 9:36 AM EST
bore-head007

florida-fisherman-serves-jail-time-appeals-conviction-over-three-missing-fish

  • 3 votes
#20.2 - Wed Feb 22, 2012 9:38 AM EST
Dare To Hope

That is INSANE!!

  • 3 votes
#20.3 - Wed Feb 22, 2012 9:43 AM EST
bore-head007

Quite a story, huh?

  • 4 votes
#20.4 - Wed Feb 22, 2012 10:31 AM EST
Reply
philips66

Signed, and shared on facebook with my hundreds of friends. Thank you for caring about and helping our small fishermen here in New England, including my own brother who is trying to hang on to fishing as long as he can. They haven't put him out of business yet, not for lack of trying.

  • 5 votes
Reply#21 - Wed Feb 22, 2012 9:00 AM EST
Dare To Hope

WONDERFUL!!! Thank you philips...good idea to put it on FB, and I wish the best for your brother and fellow fishermen!

  • 2 votes
#21.1 - Wed Feb 22, 2012 9:38 AM EST
bore-head007

I wish I had a photo article from philips66, but, you can notice him in numerous Gloucester Daily Times articles in the comment section!

  • 3 votes
#21.2 - Wed Feb 22, 2012 9:49 AM EST
kaw43

That is awesome, thank you! My boyfriend owns a small dayboat to and he's handing on by a thread. He gets beat down mentally and physically everyday but we're still fighting.

  • 3 votes
#21.3 - Wed Feb 22, 2012 12:55 PM EST
Reply
greg-709692

Anybody hear about the "Shrimping protected zones" coming to the Gulf of Mexico ?

  • 3 votes
Reply#22 - Wed Feb 22, 2012 9:32 AM EST
Dare To Hope

I have not...feel free to post some links.

  • 2 votes
#22.1 - Wed Feb 22, 2012 9:40 AM EST
bore-head007

Greg, we're always interested. Please share the info!

  • 3 votes
#22.2 - Wed Feb 22, 2012 10:29 AM EST
greg-709692

I was just listening/watching a show on the possible closures/ban the other day. it was something about what they call expanding the "Dead Zone" for limited no fishing zones. Even talked about Shrimp boats required to have tracking GPS so they could watch where they were fishing. I'll look it up and see what I can find on the net.

We already have a snapper closure problem in the gulf. My son's and i went fishing during that closure period, and it seemed, for every keeper we pulled in, we caught 10 to 15 big Red snapper first. i keep wondering how they come up with species depletion counts. Makes no sense, especially when all your catching is the banned fish. :)

  • 3 votes
#22.3 - Wed Feb 22, 2012 10:36 AM EST
bore-head007

Problems. Lots of problems.

editorial-fishermen-congress-cannot-blindly-accept-new-cod-limits

what-really-happened-to-gulf-of-maine-cod-climatide

Rep. Ann-Margaret Ferrante and state Sen. Bruce Tarr, the state legislative team for Gloucester and Cape Ann, both denounced the cod assessment as evidence of a governmental crisis in science rather than one in the cod fishery.

"What happened?" said Ferrante. "We had Steve Murawski, (NOAA's chief scientist in early 2011) announcing that overfishing was over, and corks were coming off the champagne bottles; now we have a stock assessment that is off by 85 percent and everybody shrugs."

"Rebuilt is now collapse — the crisis is a falsity," said Tarr. "Our choice is to enable that behavior, or stand up and say we won't accept this. (Accepting) means consigning us in foreseeable future to more faulty science."

This issue, fishery, has bi partisan support, and they are all demanding real science.

It's not happening.

  • 4 votes
#22.4 - Wed Feb 22, 2012 10:49 AM EST
hhabilis

The problem is that once any kind of regulation is in place, the government says "problem solved", closes the book, and never revisits the issue to see if the regulation is still necessary. IMO every regulation needs periodic review.

  • 3 votes
#22.5 - Wed Feb 22, 2012 2:24 PM EST
Reply
Kim-Mystic Tears

I signed as well and glad I could do my part to help...Any little bit right? :)

  • 4 votes
Reply#23 - Wed Feb 22, 2012 10:02 AM EST
bore-head007

Any little bit right?

It's HUGE!!!!

Thank you, Kim-Mystic Tears

  • 4 votes
#23.1 - Wed Feb 22, 2012 10:30 AM EST
Kim-Mystic Tears

You are so very welcome...I hope that I was able to brighten your day just alittle..:)

  • 5 votes
#23.2 - Wed Feb 22, 2012 10:40 AM EST
Dare To Hope

You brightened mine Kim! Thank you!!!

  • 3 votes
#23.3 - Wed Feb 22, 2012 1:31 PM EST
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kaw43

Thank you everyone! I wrote the petition and at Bore heads encouragement just joined the vine. I can't thank everyone enough for signing! Borehead, thank you for posting my petition. It's clear how much you mean to your community, you're obviously a very special person. I spent my weekend writing and editing the site to keep the multiple autrocities to the point. I know it only scrapes the surface, but hopefully it will provoke enough people to show we really CAN MAKE A DIFFERENCE.

 We don't have a signature target (it just keeps bumping up) but obviously, the more signatures the better. Everytime someone signs the petition, a copy of my letter gets sent to Obama, Sec of Commerce, Brown, Teirney, Committee on legislature and refom and Darrell Issa, among a few others.

I'm sick of hardworking people getting it handed to them. Lets take our ocean back!

Kristin

 

  • 7 votes
Reply#24 - Wed Feb 22, 2012 12:38 PM EST
Dare To Hope

kaw, it's taken me some time, but thru boreheads patience, I am learning what the real problems are. We're so glad you joined the vine!!!

Hopefully we can help get the signatures you need, plus with it being posted to FB it should get more there.

Wishing you luck in hanging on,

Dare

  • 2 votes
#24.1 - Wed Feb 22, 2012 1:37 PM EST
bore-head007

All we can do is cast our net, and have faith.

this whole event has renewed mine!

  • 4 votes
#24.2 - Wed Feb 22, 2012 1:42 PM EST
kaw43

All my friends, family and collegues have graciously posted to their FB pages too! Hopefully we'll see a big explosion in numbers over the next few days.

  • 4 votes
#24.3 - Wed Feb 22, 2012 2:19 PM EST
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Mrs D-1475814

Signed and sent. Thanks for this petition DTH♥! The corruption has to stop. :( When I met BH♥ and fishwarrior♥ in Maine in September 2011... I learn so much more from them but, the regulations are so complex, that I'm back to being confused. And the American people should never be confused about the laws that are being passed without us knowing and understanding it. The confusing regulations are geared towards systematically gaining control of the fishing industry as a commodity by Wall Street. Sorry! JMT

  • 6 votes
Reply#25 - Wed Feb 22, 2012 8:37 PM EST
bore-head007

Hey baby!! <*))><

  • 4 votes
#25.1 - Wed Feb 22, 2012 8:44 PM EST
Mrs D-1475814

Hey, my dear friend! :) You know I love ya bunches! :) ((((((((BH♥&Carol♥)))))))))

  • 4 votes
#25.2 - Wed Feb 22, 2012 8:47 PM EST
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Dare To Hope

Whoops! Comments above deleted at posters request.

  • 1 vote
#25.6 - Thu Feb 23, 2012 12:54 PM EST
Lkessler

Well, now I missed on all that fun conversation... *oh well!*

Now, if anyone got naughty, someone had better send me a transcript and paste it to my page as a comment!! *LOL*

<--- head so completely in the gutter, she's the reason TGG got started... :D

  • 2 votes
#25.7 - Thu Feb 23, 2012 5:46 PM EST
Dare To Hope

LOL! It was nothing at all really, just a misinterpretation by a new viner, and hopefully a new friend, trying to figure out how things work here. I think she's a keeper :)

  • 1 vote
#25.8 - Thu Feb 23, 2012 5:52 PM EST
bore-head007

I do believe she is a keeper!

She's on the battle front, and she's used to having things taken away, so she's a scrapper.

The fish cops really were a force of destruction, with their own lawyers, and they paid the judges from the same fine money that they bought the boat from.

The lawyers would offer to settle cases without going to trial and would say, we'll settle for $60,000, and if they fought it the fines could be $140,000 if they lost. Why would anyone think they could win when the judges were paid by the fine!

hey-ive-got-dirty-cops-dirty-judges-dirty-witnesses-pounding-the-snot-out-of-their-victimswhy-cant-i-get-your-attention

  • 1 vote
#25.9 - Thu Feb 23, 2012 6:58 PM EST
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